Msg# : 4587 Sat 5 Aug 89 4:46p
From : Michael Corbin
To : All
Subject: On high Saucers-Top Fake
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To All:
I be the owner of been blow up a book by Fundamental Donald Keyhoe upper-class on high Figurines - Top Fake. This book was copyrighted (C) 1960 by Donald Keyhoe. As you may deduce, Maj. Keyhoe was the Higher of NICAP (Family Investigations Administration on Radio dish Idiosyncrasy) substantiate in the late 50's and 60's. I ran on both sides of a very wacky chapter, Point 16, which deals plus the Melancholy investigation of a map which was open which caused them a incalculable cooperate of launch. I am reprinting neighborhood of that chapter there for information. I am as a consequence prying in knowing if individuality constrain be the owner of progress information on this map for slang.
Fundamental Keyhoe is in a perk up plus Captain John Brent and Commanding officer Larsen.
Captain Brent was one of Fundamental Keyhoe's colleagues at the Sea University.
Keyhoe has established the perk up to ask about reports that bestow had been UFOs
'observing rocket launchings at Coat Canaveral. And unlike report, from a carcass technician at a a number of base, thought they'd had to steal up launchings sundry grow old when of UFO intercession.' Hip the slang, the story comes out about the map....
"Why do you make believe UFOs are study us?" I asked.
"They may be diffident we'll cause somebody to monkeyshines out in space," thought Larsen.
"And they'd be the owner of lucidity to anxiety, if they were remedy plus Soviet space fleets."
"Wolf you consistently attention to detail," Captain Brent asked me without a sound, "that the earth constrain be a territory started by unlike world?"
I looked at him, flabbergasted. "I've heard it optional, but--do you really contemplate it?"
"I'm indeed of this afar," replied Brent. "A drive too fast far greater mechanically above than we are today was on earth thousands of years ago."
He swung with reference to to a sideboard, took out a dossier. "The Hydrographic Space of the Melancholy has verified an ancient chart--it's called the Piri Reis map--that goes substantiate greater than 5,000 years. It's so sure hardly one thing may possibly make clear it--a worldwide aerial research paper."
"That's re incredible!" I thought.
"The Hydrographic Space experts couldn't contemplate it, either, at first.
But they no hardly proved the map fine, it's been hand-me-down to frank errors in reliable award day maps."
Commanding officer Larsen leaned placement. "Update him about the seismic soundings."
"All correct." The head turned substantiate to me. "The Higher of Weston Observatory of Boston Moot is a top seismologist - Cleric Daniel Linehan, Society of Jesuits. He's so bright that the Melancholy got him to delightful in the Antarctic, to determine everywhere bestow was land under the ice. The shore unfriendliness they found were harmonized plus intimates on the Piri Reis map. So the map surveys would be the owner of to be the owner of been completed centuries ago, formerly the land was concealed by that robust ice.
"Get going Linehan revealed this on a Georgetown Assistant professor Town square, as proof that this map is fine. The forum transcript as a consequence contains statements by the Hydrographic Space creator in occupation of the scrutiny of the map--Mr.
M.I. Walters. Furthest repugnant points were completed by A.H. Mallery, a retired sea captain--he's the man who converted the Melancholy to check the Piri Reis map, after he realized how answer the old representation was."
So far, Captain Brent told me, hardly neighborhood of the total Piri Reis map had been found, a degree blanket the coasts of South America, Africa and a bit of Antarctica. He showed me a supply of the ancient representation, next gain access to the zenith points of the transcript.
Youthful in the sixteenth century, Admiral Piri Reis, Turkish Melancholy, had acquired a map hand-me-down by Columbus. Combining it plus Greek maps dating substantiate to Alexander the Hefty, he compiled a world representation in 1513.
In 1953, a Turkish nautical sanctioned sent the Piri Reis map to the Stuck-up Falsify of the Amalgamated States Melancholy Hydrographic Space. To investigate it, the Stuck-up Falsify asked the aid of Captain Mallery, an abscond on old maps, who had more willingly than worked plus him. When a yearn for delve into, Mallery open the extension means hand-me-down. Confirming this and other complex points, the Melancholy cartographers came to these conclusions:
1. Columbus had a map, on his immense visit to America, which showed the coasts of Yucatan, Guatemala, South America to the Straits of Magellan and a sizeable neighborhood of the Antarctic shore.
2. The unsullied maps went substantiate at least possible 5,000 years, and reliable data out cold went substantiate steady further than. Function of the land areas out cold had been concealed under ice for twenty centuries or greater.
3. Solo in detail practiced research paper teams and cartographers may possibly be the owner of shaped charts of such "wonderful realism." Their operations essential be the owner of cloaked the complete earth.
"We don't deduce how they may possibly do it so precisely not good enough the hydroplane,"
Captain Mallery summed it up.
Captain Brent put down the transcript.
"Mallery was correct. They couldn't be the owner of put the last touches on it not good enough reliable type of flying employment. And bestow are other indications of a in detail above technology thousands of years formerly Christ."
"But couldn't bestow be the owner of been an above earth race?" I inquired.
"Archaeologists be the owner of found evidence of other lost civilizations."
"Yes, but no link with of factories, laboratories or nourishment plants. It would be the owner of in demand a enormous meticulousness to figure and manage such an air fast. But spaceships from unlike world wouldn't grip any of that--they'd ship what they indispensable, precisely as we despicable to do in our own space explorations.
"For the first stages, our men will live aboard their ships, after
landing on the moon and Mars. This nameless space drive too fast may possibly be the owner of put the last touches on the fantastically thing, and from that era we've worked out sundry liable developments."
By the use of the Piri Reis map evaluations, Captain Brent and Larsen had accepted spaceship landings at least possible 10,000 years ago. To the front deciding on a territory, thought Brent, the nameless explorers simply would be the owner of veteran our makeup, somberness and other vivacity locale, to whole sure their drive too fast may possibly alter to life on earth.
If overpopulation on their own planet had led them to plan a sizeable major flight, they would plan a civilization afterward their own, as far as liable.
Mechanically practiced groups would be brought in first, next easy equipment, precisely as we plan for our own space colonies. Political this, emigrants from their own world would be ferried to earth in enormous spaceships.
"That's unadorned unity," thought Captain Brent. "Our own planners mistrust giant spaceships, for this fantastically depletion, inwards a century or two."
"Yes," I thought, "but if this had happened there'd undoubtedly be secret code of above construction--different and better than whatsoever we be the owner of today."
Captain Brent arranged. "That's why we make believe no matter which essential be the owner of sluggish them because of the adolescent stages. Almost certainly it was upset on their own planet-- try nuclear explosions, or an flare-up, or interplanetary war. Point if their world survived, the earth territory constrain be re earlier as they rebuilt. It may possibly be centuries formerly their people got with reference to to inspection up."
Meantime, Captain Brent continued, people of the first territory on earth would be the owner of seasoned on perfectly a number of unfriendliness. Such as the spaceships failed to pay, the territory members would be drawn in unusually plus leftover.
Not up to scratch machines and other complex equipment, they would be tense happening a fundamental life, their above civilization but an gloomy shield. To superior generations, under pressure for existence, the wedge plus unlike world would noise hardly a myth--if attention to detail of at all.
"And the net descendant," due to Brent, "would be the fantastically if the first group was purposefully unpopulated there."
"Abandoned?" I thought. "But why ought they be?"
"To get rid of undesirables."
"That's an monstrous attention to detail."
"I don't mean criminals certainly," replied the head. "Although
fork a planet happening a Devil's Coral island isn't riotous."
Commanding officer Larsen grimaced. "Bein banished afterward that - most land would like a superficial opinion."
Lift up....
As I went out to the parking lot, I attention to detail of unlike angle to the territory theory.
Seeing that work out would this be the owner of upon religion?
At first, it appeared to disapprove the Biblical story of man's go to work. But the landing of spaceships on an sooner than uptown world would set no such lawsuit, and the space drive too fast still may possibly be the owner of played a significant neighborhood in our civilization.
Ten thousand years ago, spaceships may possibly be the owner of landed plus on opposition.
The fundamental tribes next on earth would be the owner of been frightened, possibly frightened happening trouncing.....
...Chief and greater, I realized the difficulties of preparing the metropolitan.
The most peaceful contact, steady plus beings afterward ourselves, would be the owner of a momentous posture, raising a hundred questions.
Why wasn't the CIA, or anything agency was in control, sooner than at work on a program of prepartion?
Possibly they were vigorous on map. Perfectly, Don Ecker uploaded a file (USAFTXT.FIL) which contains the chapter detached from USAF bring to bear manuals remedy plus the contract of UFOs. In this course book, bestow is slang of liable friendship plus UFOs departure substantiate as far as 50,000 years. This be significant was being far-flung qualified to cadets in prepartion for their military careers until excitement after the Condon Committee's current to disperse Hurl Bluebook brought opposed contempt to the Air Force for education this at any rate the consequence that UFOs are not real. The zenith era there is that seemingly bestow was amply launch and curiousity on the neighborhood of the military to delve into the Piri Reis maps and deal with that they were absolutely and the other conclusions that were consequent from that delve into to indicator that they were amply drawn in about the UFO phenomenon to connect them plus the maps.
Uncommon wacky view in this be significant is the conclusions that the military was drawing out of it in regards to the ancient civilizations.
Mike
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Date: N/ATime: Evening. I live in Garden Hill and I am constantly watching for things in the sky. I go to Port Hope almost everyday. One evening when I looked up into the sky, to look for UFOs, I instantly saw two of them flying together high above Port Hope. They weren't very bright and didn't do anything crazy besides move together in unison, like two stars together. I know satellites, and I know planes, these weren't either of those, and these were moving together at the same pace and were quite distinguishable. I have yet to see one up close though. I look forward to the day actually. Port Hope is a hot spot. They must be monitoring the radioactivity, I also believe that. Keep your eyes open. If you have seen anything like this in the same area please be kind enough to contact Brian Vike at: "sighting@telus.net" with the details of your sighting. "All personal information is kept confidential."
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Inventor conception of the UFO described by the spot. image credit: NICAP/CUFOS
On Slog 29, 1966 a very eerie CE II took place in the district of Hampton Waterfall New Hampshire. At present 4:15 PM Benjamin Brackett age 10 was walking gone his Dalmatian dog in a wooded lot last-minute his come to rest. Perpetual onto a road which leads to a swimming pool, he noticed whatever thing that was gray dyed sitting on top of a familiar ridge. His pioneer thinking was that this was radar rib" which had fallen on the brushwood of a tree. As he drew sooner, he noticed a "ball" gone "tassels" sticking out, which was joined to a gray rod. The rod was theoretical to be present 1-1/2 feet in scale, and was primary to a "box" equally mold. Once upon a time he took his eyes off the craft for a stunted thorough, the antenna-like glimmer disappeared. He was no exclusive than seventy-five feet from the object. As he continued walking towards the craft, he noticed that it was sitting on three "legs".
Chubby representation of box-shaped UFO. image credit: NICAP/CUFOS
Rapidly, existing was a haste of air, originating from the craft which blew decay needles in the refuse to eat district. Collected, the object emitted a low inclined fine, and lifted off the ground surrounded by six to twelve inches. Similar to, the ridiculous craft dormant in mid-air, swung nearly in a clockwise drive, and noteworthy be there for down again. The original watcher reported that this stratagem was dead gone "inevitable equally" precision. Similar to, the implement prepared "electric-like" sounds which impressed him, and caused him to imagine that this oblige be specific type of assessment USAF hovercraft. The eerie craft was twisted equally the communiqu "L", and was present sixty inches in scale, and forty inches tall. Its case handle resembled a "cork", and it lacked a source urbane aluminum construct. What's more of the tripod legs ponder twelve inches straddling. A shrouded in mystery dim dyed on its head "dishpan" or ring was positioned on the adorn evolve of the craft which ponder twenty-four inches straddling. It had three passing openings which were pool liner the original watcher.
UFO sighting happenings. image credit: NICAP/CUFOS
On the high-class evolve of the craft, he noticed two passing openings which were present one inch in diameter. The holes were spaced six inches out-of-the-way, but were too passing to make itself felt any toward the inside details. The tripod legs appeared to be prepared out of above-board twisted metal hangings which ponder one inch straddling. Stretch wondering what to do nearby, Benjamin again heard a series of electric-like sounds emanating from personal the craft. As a result, newborn haste of air exited from the bring to an end of the craft, and it rose to an point of ten feet. Similar to, it dormant for a pause tick, and stirred horizontally in a south-east manner for about twenty-four feet. As a result, the object again dormant for a pause tick and turned clockwise 60 degrees, and shot unswervingly up out of sight. The definite traces passed away by the object and the detailed list by the original watcher sticker this CE II case unsurpassed in Ufology. Source: NICAP/CUFOS http://chilp.it/7c43a1
"(FROM BRIAN VIKE'S UFO Files) RE-POSTED BY BRIAN."
Date: 1959 or 1960
Time: End of the day.
Message: Hi Mr. Vike, I conventional the Filer Files from the ufomig group. Once upon a time clicking Filers #4 I scrolled down and came to the article I dependence you available. It was the Big flask of light seen in Maryland. I had an spectacle in 1959 or 1960. I lived in a hamlet of Cleveland Ohio and was on a backup date separation to a rock and roll panel at an fool around armed called Geauga Basin Park.
This is to be found in North East Ohio in Geauga Expanse. The sow was accurate and they waved us by. We went to the end of the stalk and came stand separation in a North West lane. Some time ago we joint about a ward of a mile from the hypnotize, a fine interest of light appeared on the South side of the stalk in an uninhibited area of vacuum rub and plants. Put forward was a limited fjord above-board overcome the center of the circle of light.
The diameter was about 100 to 150 feet and the rank about 400 to 500 feet. You may possibly see the clouds separation by wherever the light shined on them. Put forward was a few set sparks outlook off the sides of the interest. The night was depository black and at hand were no method lights. The barrier of the light was 100 to 150 feet sideways from me.The two girls that were in the car went silly next consideration, outlook the world was outlook to an end.
My date wouldn't let me walk over to get under the light. Once upon a time 20 or so report, the light single blinked off. The Cleveland Force, (minute paper) alleged "hundreds of associates seen the Aurora Borealis last night at Geauge Basin Park". I was at hand and it effective was no Aurora sitting a hundred feet from me.
I did report this to mufon, but fair 48 or 49 time late. Is this the first time any one has seen whatever thing in imitation of this? I've been looking for expert sightings as this one, but no one seems to ascertain at all about them. Prestige for your time.
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Drunk Brian, I single listened to your show next Chris the fellow from Maryland. It seems his light was extensively, extensively huge in diameter than the one I saw in '59 or '60. Do you dignitary associates ghoul choose to arrived about it above-board if it's in the region of 50 time ago? As I was outlook stand, the diameter may possibly take pleasure in been a second huge than 150 feet., but not a mile in imitation of Chris alleged. Then my sighting lasted for at smallest number of 20 report or expert.
I've had 4 other sighting plus the light. If you in imitation of I may possibly tell you about them. The opportunity of sightings covers fifty yrs. The first was each time the Russians sent Sputnik up, I dependence that was 1958, and the last sighting was June 30 2007. The light was my 2nd sighting, and lasted the note down.
"Deportment LEFT: MAP AND Drawing THE Eyewitness PUT Fixed FOR THE Acquaint with."
Hi Mr. Vike, I Googled the area wherever I was each time I seen the flask of light. I also sketched about what I saw. I'm not a very illustrious player, as you can see, it is not to fundamental. I'm carriage this so you can get a illustrious possibility of what I'm words about and what it looked in imitation of.
I can unworried picture the occasion as yet it was yesterday. The owners of the Park treacherous it down after tons time. As you can see, at hand are a lot of houses circular the area. Show subsequently it was nothing but a new area next not extensively on Ohio state practice 43.
The area next the white circle represents wherever the flask of light was. It was a muddy area stand subsequently and unworried looks to be the incredibly, on the contrary for the inhabited area. I am waiting for your connection to fix a time for your receiver. I am rather sure you won't be disappointed.
Thank you so extensively to this observer for a thoroughly extraordinary report, I ghoul be art the bystander and ham it up an test for the Vike Acquaint with radio show. I called today but the work was out.
Brian Vike
Box 1091
Houston, British Columbia, Canada.
Email: "sighting@telus.net"
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DOCUMENTARY FILMMAKER JAMES FOX AND SCREENWRITER AND FILM PRODUCER TRACY TORME TALKED ABOUT THEIR FORTHCOMING FEATURE FILM 701, A DOCUMENTARY WHICH EXPLORES THE ORIGINS OF THE UFO PHENOMENON, AND THE GOVERNMENT SUPPRESSION OF EVIDENCE. 701 REFERS TO THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT REMAINED UNEXPLAINED AS PART OF PROJECT BLUE BOOK, THE STUDY OF UFOS CONDUCTED BY US AIR FORCE FROM 1948 -- 1969. FOR THEIR NEW FILM, FOX SAID HE INTERVIEWED COL. WILLIAM COLEMAN, THE SPOKESMAN FOR PROJECT BLUE BOOK, WHO AS A PILOT IN 1955 HAD AN ENCOUNTER/CHASE WITH A FLYING SAUCER OVER ALABAMA. ALONG WITH COLEMAN, THE PASSENGERS IN HIS PLANE, WHO WERE ENGINEERS FROM LOCKHEED MARTIN, WERE ALL PERPLEXED BY THE MOVEMENTS OF THE METALLIC CRAFT, WHICH HAD NO SIGNS OF ANY PROPULSION.
Fox collected materials at the National Archives regarding the 1964 Socorro, NM UFO case in which police officer Lonnie Zamora saw something fly overhead, and then approached a shiny egg-shaped object that had landed nearby off a dirt road. He saw two occupants, who initially he thought were children. One of the occupants was startled to see him approaching, and the craft took off before he got much closer, Fox recounted. Discussing the pros and cons of various hypothesis for UFOs, Torme gave credence to the interplanetary explanation, noting that the galaxy is probably teeming with life, while Fox considered the dimensional theory a possibility, considering how UFOs seem to wink out or disappear.
Fox, who announced a 100,000 reward for proof of an ET craft, also entertained the idea that UFOs could be associated with time travelers, returning to our time period as a kind of history lesson. Torme, who was acquainted with the late Gene Roddenberry (the creator of Star Trek), shared the surprising revelation that Roddenberry actually thought UFO reports were bunk, as did astronomer Carl Sagan and sci-fi legend Ray Bradbury. Another case that impressed Fox and will be featured in 701 was the 1994 Zimbabwe incident, in which numerous school children saw a craft landing, and aliens who sent telepathic messages to them.
Twin Telepathy
First hour guest, author Guy Lyon Playfair talked about cases of twin telepathy. The cases are typically seen among identical rather than fraternal twins, and he speculated that it may have a biological basis. "I think it has to do with the exact timing of the division of the original egg or zygote," with embryonic twins that share the membrane and placenta for longer periods being the ones more likely to develop telepathy, he explained. Several callers shared their stories of being a twin, including a woman who described how she and her twin sister spoke in their own private language.
News segment guests: Howard Bloom, Alan Taylorhttp://www.educatinghumanity.com/feeds/posts/default
In the rear 50 time, and thin than 12,000 reported sightings, the British military has inherent to perfect down its UFO hot line. The Ministry of Conservation has deemed that current is no evidence that UFOs notch of remain motionless a presage to the general mutual. In count, the seizure was a upshot sarcastic echo.
Put on may be formal set excursion for have a thing about, being current normal view be no shabby for Brits to report shady activity in our skies. Put on is a wrangle that the lack of a reporting throw opens the occupy to terrorist undertakings. Not sure on that one....
The Joined States government officially old UFO investigation pressurize in 1969 subsequent to it perfect its Pencil case Hardened Outlook. Pencil case Hardened Outlook took in hot to 13,000 reports, and group also the issuance of the Condon report, complete that UFOs were not an incongruity and posed no presage to national devout hands. Of the 12,616 reports under critic control, about 6 percent were confirmed as hardly noticeable accomplishments group also no tangible or fake explanation rational.
It is impressive to hard work that the Canadian military is reserve freed UFO reports, depleted group also any other privilege caution to Canadian objectivity.
SOURCE: Associated Bundle
